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  1. MUUGEN

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    To avoid a mislynch on FB we should all ask @Ratchet to Modkill him since we are now lynching him due to wanting him out of the game.
     
  2. Evil

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    He is the only one left who hasn't voted out of all eligible to vote since Raven apparently decided not to opt in.
     
  3. Snekhs

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    Ratchet has no reason to modkill him though lol
     
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  4. Ratchet

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    As Snekhs said, Finalbeta has to actually have broken a major rule for me to modkill him. I understand that there's frustration here, but the precedent I'd be setting by modkilling a player because enough said they didn't want to play any more would be horrible.
     
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  5. Dracula

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    According to the OP, I am allowed to change my vote like that.
     
  6. Snekhs

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    @Dracula I thought that too at first but the OP also says that
    @Ratchet can you please tell us which it is?
     
  7. Ratchet

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    As it says, you must first unvote before changing your vote.
     
  8. Nicholas

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    Beta pick anfucking scenario
     
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    @Finalbeta pick option A or B please so that we can move on.
     
  10. Finalbeta

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    Option B
     
  11. Iwandesu

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    Fuck you guys :dank
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 13, 2018 ---
    @Dazai are you also a conditional vanilla ?
    Vou seem awfully interested on the events to say the least:distracted
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 13, 2018 ---
    Unvote
    Vote Lynch finalbeta

    Die the death.
    Hammer the asshole
     
  12. Finalbeta

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    Don't forget about the bet
     
  13. Dracula

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    Well then.

    Unvote
    Vote: Finalbeta

     
  14. Snekhs

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    Hey you said yourself that we shouldn't pick up :dank
     
  15. Threadmarks: Scenario Event 5 - End
    Ratchet

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    -Scenario Event #5-
    Location: Japan
    Players Eligible: All (exception(s): Revan)

    You wait for the ringing to end. It seems to take an age, but it eventually subsides. Was it some kind of prank?

    Suddenly, you all received a voice mail notification. No matter how many times you cleared it, it remained on your screen. You decided to pluck up the courage and listen to it.

    Voicemail

    The notification was then deleted from everyone's phones, somehow. Fortunately, nothing else happened.

    -Scenario Event 5 - Blue Sky End-

    End of Scenario Events for Day 2
     
  16. Snekhs

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    I played that in a meeting on accident
     
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    Alright then

    Vote: Finalbeta
     
  19. Iwandesu

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    Shh
    That was Just the logical conclusion speaking :defeat
    Anyway events are done for lets Hammer beta
     
  20. Rotaretilbo

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    Not quite. The majority thinks that your actions are incredibly suspicious, but also concedes that you're dumb enough to behave this way as Town. That is to say, the majority acknowledges that you acting suspiciously is not necessarily alignment-indicative. But if you're dumb enough to act like this as Town, you're dumb enough to act like this as Scum, and the possibility of giving you a pass as Scum is worse, at least in my mind, than lynching you as Town.

    Sigh. Generally speaking, the ratio of Scum to Town is going to be 1:2 or 1:3, depending on how strong the factions are. You generally only do 1:2 if the Town is strong and the Scum are weak. I would say that, in a 10-player game, it's more common that you see 2 Scum than 3. In a 14-player game like this, 3 is typical, while 4 is possible.

    That said, this is clearly not a typical game. The Town appears to be 100% Vanilla with one possible exception, and every member of the Town has access to a simple Jack of All Trades mechanic. That's incredibly strong for Town, but more importantly, it's the kind of strong that is not countered by more Scum. It's actually the opposite: the more Scum, the easier the Town will root them out, with their barrage of early-game investigations. The fact of the matter is, we're likely looking at either a small, very powerful, likely evolving SK, or a Cult.

    Third, the fact that Events can remove Town from play is going to be a factor for balance. The Events are either random, or are structured behind difficult puzzles, which means the expectation is probably skewed in favor of losing Town to them. This, I think, means we're more likely dealing with an SK than a Cult, because the negative impact of Events would balance out the small Scum number.

    It's still a risk, lynching you. But trying to paint it as dire as this, as a LyLo on Day 2 after a no lynch, is dumb. It's especially dumb considering you've attempted to push literally any alternative lynch, without any consideration whatsoever to whether those lynches were well founded. The moment someone so much as mentioned an alternative lynch, your vote is in place. How can you warn us about the dire nature of the situation when you yourself refuse to treat it as one, except when it suits you?

    In short: fuck you.

    Shogun isn't the one placing the calls, isn't responsible for the music or the earthquake, and is actively working against the antagonists in Chaos;Head. We can't make him mad, and making him mad isn't going to negatively impact us. I still don't understand where you're getting this from.

    ...As of #530, @MUUGEN has the 4th most posts in Day 2, and the 5th most posts overall. @Revan and @Evil could be described as inactifagging, @Nicholas, @Dazai, or myself could maybe be described as inactifagging, but @MUUGEN is objectively not inactifagging.
     
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